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Re: Plain as a pikestaff dwarves, gnomes and halflings?

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I can only detect bad art direction on the painted pictures. It would be too much to ask for a return to black and white, but I think that's the only way to keep high standards. Man that 5E halfling bard sucks, the perspective is all wrong. "Dungeonpunk" is a thing, and I don't remember anyone saying they liked it.
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rounser wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:01 am I can only detect bad art direction on the painted pictures. It would be too much to ask for a return to black and white, but I think that's the only way to keep high standards. Man that 5E halfling bard sucks, the perspective is all wrong.
Once in a blue moon, I appreciate the odd "speed painted" piece. In no way do I want this technique to become the standard for future D&D artists.

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rounser wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:01 am I can only detect bad art direction on the painted pictures. It would be too much to ask for a return to black and white, but I think that's the only way to keep high standards. Man that 5E halfling bard sucks, the perspective is all wrong. "Dungeonpunk" is a thing, and I don't remember anyone saying they liked it.
It is not perspective. There are a lot of 5th Edition drawings with halflings having overly tiny feet. It is just bad art.
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Some of you will get a kick out of this (barely) pre-3e dialogue concerning halflings from the CRPG Baldur's Gate 2.

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Ezram wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:21 pm Some of you will get a kick out of this (barely) pre-3e dialogue concerning halflings from the CRPG Baldur's Gate 2.

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Classic! :D

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I actually like this fellow quite a bit:
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Well, gotta say one thing about later edition halflings, we know that they invented the g-string! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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tl;dr too many pics of the same thing
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Xabloyan wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:43 pm tl;dr too many pics of the same thing
You read pictures 8O?
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Mock26 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:31 pmWell, gotta say one thing about later edition halflings, we know that they invented the g-string! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
In real life, the g-string was invented by a fat hairy male biker who didn't want his undies riding up his behind. The truth ruins things sometimes.
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Ezram wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:49 am
Edit: The following depiction of a halfling from the 5e PHB isn't as freakish as the others.

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Apropos of nothing, a librarian I worked with bears a startling resemblance to this halfling— though only in the face and hair.
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Ratbreath wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:37 am
Bedivere wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:52 am
Ezram wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:51 pm Um...
How is this even remotely a halfling? Because she has slightly pointed, human proportioned ears? The body proportions are completely human. I mean, sure, the sports bra says halfling, but her thong is more elf, don't you think?
I have another question. Why is she pulling her pants down? Is she going to pee on the totem pole? :|
I’m with you on this one. Yes, maybe she is comparing the tattoo, but the picture is absurd, completely anachronistic, and borders on lewd. :P I’m surprised it made it through WotC’s editorial system. But then, I’m not familiar with what they were doing from 3e-4e. The 5e art is definitely tamer— probably because they’re marketing the game to 10 year olds. Can’t have Momma see things like *that* 8O !

And that girl is NOT a halfling.
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Ezram wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:10 pm
Xabloyan wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:43 pm tl;dr too many pics of the same thing
You read pictures 8O?
He makes a very good point. People need to learn to edit out pictures when quoting posts in a picture thread.
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William Longsword wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:43 pmI actually like this fellow quite a bit:


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I like seeing the basic demihuman races expressed through other fantasy counterpart cultures besides the generic North/Northwestern European mold (okay...Scottish :lol:). Also, if I ever actually run an Al-Qadim campaign (or have my players' characters visit Zakhara), I will have good reason to contemplate the nuances unique to "Arabic" Dwarves.
rounser wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:27 amIn real life, the g-string was invented by a fat hairy male biker who didn't want his undies riding up his behind. The truth ruins things sometimes.
Then again, if anyone here is into fat hairy male halflings/hobbits, we won't judge.

Then again...I think "fat", "hairy" and "male" constitutes the overwhelming majority of Shire folk :?. Are they as bad as dwarves when it comes to the sex disparity? Nope, but that standard isn't difficult to beat.
Parzival wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:17 am I’m with you on this one. Yes, maybe she is comparing the tattoo, but the picture is absurd, completely anachronistic, and borders on lewd. :P I’m surprised it made it through WotC’s editorial system. But then, I’m not familiar with what they were doing from 3e-4e. The 5e art is definitely tamer— probably because they’re marketing the game to 10 year olds. Can’t have Momma see things like *that* 8O !

And that girl is NOT a halfling.
Quite right. They can't be showing even an inch of excess skin...this is a family friendly game of killing sapient beings and taking their ancestral treasures 8).
Mock26 wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:10 amHe makes a very good point. People need to learn to edit out pictures when quoting posts in a picture thread.
My takeaway from that essay was notably different. Perchance, would you happen to be a diviner?
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Ezram wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:48 am
Mock26 wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:10 amHe makes a very good point. People need to learn to edit out pictures when quoting posts in a picture thread.
My takeaway from that essay was notably different. Perchance, would you happen to be a diviner?
Perhaps you missed the part where he said, "too many pics of the same thing"?
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Mock26 wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:13 amPerhaps you missed the part where he said, "too many pics of the same thing"?
That could also mean "too much 3e+ stuff" or even "too much 2e stuff" (oftentimes, it is attacked/derided just as much as anything WOTC produced). Given the amount of innuendo and passive-aggressiveness I've seen on these boards, I can be forgiven for misreading such a needlessly cryptic post.
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Mock26 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:31 pm
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Well, gotta say one thing about later edition halflings, we know that they invented the g-string! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Kinda cute, whatever her race! Kinda looks like a Half Elf/Half Kender Wizard from my Campaign
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Ezram wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:48 am
Parzival wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:17 am I’m with you on this one. Yes, maybe she is comparing the tattoo, but the picture is absurd, completely anachronistic, and borders on lewd. :P I’m surprised it made it through WotC’s editorial system. But then, I’m not familiar with what they were doing from 3e-4e. The 5e art is definitely tamer— probably because they’re marketing the game to 10 year olds. Can’t have Momma see things like *that* 8O !

And that girl is NOT a halfling.
Quite right. They can't be showing even an inch of excess skin...this is a family friendly game of killing sapient beings and taking their ancestral treasures 8).
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Parzival wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:05 amApropos of nothing, a librarian I worked with bears a startling resemblance to this halfling— though only in the face and hair.
Did she happen to always wear a hat...the same hat, even?
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Ezram wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:23 am
Parzival wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:05 amApropos of nothing, a librarian I worked with bears a startling resemblance to this halfling— though only in the face and hair.
Did she happen to always wear a hat...the same hat, even?
Uhm, no. (I suspect there’s a joke or reference I’m missing here?)
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I'm rather partial to this fellow.

I wouldn't think anyone asked for sexy halflings, but I suppose this is the Internet. When I think halflings, this is what comes to mind unbidden:

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But, along those lines, I prefer the LoTR variety:

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Also, just my favorite depiction of Gollum:

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Gnarley Bones wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:11 pm But, along those lines, I prefer the LoTR variety...
I agree.

Actually, if there's one take-away (for me) from these various "art threads" it's that mainstream fantasy art hasn't been to my taste in quite some time. Most of the more recent art would turn me away from a game that used it.
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Parzival wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:47 pmUhm, no. (I suspect there’s a joke or reference I’m missing here?)
Sort of, yes (some magical hoodwinking may have been at work). To be honest, I'm slightly disappointed you didn't pick up on it...you D&D veteran, you :(.
Gnarley Bones wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:11 pmBut, along those lines, I prefer the LoTR variety:
I can appreciate respecting the inspiration, but I don't want to remain forever tethered to this one general interpretation of halflings.

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Look at those thick locks of hair. Dreamy feet and she uses the best conditioner and shampoo. Need to find Cyberpunk halfling.

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McDeath wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:01 pmLook at those thick locks of hair. Dreamy feet and she uses the best conditioner and shampoo.
If they were to wax, do you think that skin would itch when the hair grows back?

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Waxing like that is a sin. Styling curls with wax and coloring is art. I can't find pics but if i was an artist I'd be filling these pages with modern demi-humans.
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McDeath wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:58 amWaxing like that is a sin.
Hm...I may be one-quarter hobbit/halfling. An eighthling, maybe?
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Last night I dreamed that I met a woman with hairy feet!
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sniperdoc wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:07 pm Last night I dreamed that I met a woman with hairy feet!
She could have been a Dwarf. Dwarves are hairy too and, last time I checked, their feet aren't explicitly exempt from being hirsute.
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Realism is a spice to the meal which is a campaign. On some occasions, a sprinkle is required; at other times, a generous helping is a necessity. However, rarely (if ever) does it constitute a meal unto itself and it is far too easy to indulge to the point of repulsion.
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